找回密码
 马上注册

扫一扫,访问微社区

搜索
热搜: mestrenova
楼主: 上善若水

请教这四种类似结构某个C化学位移的相对大小

[复制链接]
发表于 2009-5-28 16:27:12 | 显示全部楼层

4>3, 4>1

3>2,
1>2

3>1 (-OCO- alpha +56.5; belta +6.5; -OH alpha +49.0, belta +10.1) although 3 is close to 1

4>3>1>2

, L+ U7 p- g/ R0 b- ?

according to your conclusion,maybe 3 is the  lowest

回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

发表于 2009-5-28 22:02:51 | 显示全部楼层
 Why?
The conclusion is 4>3>1>2.
回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

发表于 2009-5-28 23:13:32 | 显示全部楼层
  On acetylation (OH group was changed to OCOCH3 group), the alpha ( ?; E4 @/ a& Z$ a4 ycarbon will show a downfield shift while the belta carbon will show a 9 j5 v" Y' H; _/ W7 H: P8 rupfield shif.
' n7 i# Q; K5 e* g! C
3 G& T& F- B7 G2 u7 S1 ]& ^7 m+ TSee the following article how to revise a structure reported before just using the above rule!
# s0 l* ~/ v' e+ x' d
$ Y4 c. {2 _2 }1 ^1 p- F, C+ XOne compound with C-6 OH, C-7 OH (compound IV in the article):  chemical shift values of C-6 79.3 ppm, C-7 76.2 ppm were known.
# x. G( U$ M2 ?
" f9 |6 t' `, Q/ q& M* DAnother compound with one OH group acetylated: it could be C-6 OAc, C-7" n* v% X4 }3 H7 p9 d8 G& b9 G OH (compound I in the article) or could be C-6 OH, C-7OAc (compound II / u" @" B8 f0 A- l+ e* r1 N4 G* \in the article). The chemical shifts of the two carbons are 78.1 and ( Q' D: v0 q0 @5 {7 o2 R80.5. How to determine which carbon (C-6 or C-7) has the OAC group?

' T# V6 g" t* S+ i
; P3 q& Z/ z2 c4 V. tThe auhors resovled the problem:
) d, P% x% q" {" ^
4 W% G6 S3 e' E; l6 oIf C-6 (80.5) and C-7 (78.5) were right, meaning both the chemical J9 j& t9 l7 S. t( Fshifts of C-6 (79.3 to 80.5) and C-7 (76.2 to 78.5) were increased. & i0 p. T# I/ W% I/ c/ r- VThat assupmtion violates the above rule.
' }! b/ n# Q; J. l
4 ~# W* b2 s- i( V ]) rSo chemical shift of C-6 was not 80.5 but 78.5, chemical shift of C-7 was not 78.5 but 80.5.
6 M; X% K% Z$ q7 w7 ~* B
1 V( A) A, o- }* ]- v& `' x/ x C-6 (78.5) and C-7 (80.5) meaned that C-6 shifted to highfield (from 5 L" u( D1 x5 V9 A$ k79.3 to 78.5), C-7 shifted to lowfield (from 76.2 to 80.5). Logically,8 g2 _7 Z2 v7 f q$ P" O* O* y it was the C-7 with the OAC group (compound II), not the C-6 with the 1 }) f7 [/ A$ X; FOAC group (compound I).
# U8 B: F8 P" I" ~- j' ~
# H" _; y9 x* i" S9 H# U$ T Simple, logic structural revision published in 1981!

# [5 M$ D$ x. |( i% k

  7 m1 ]" t3 ~4 ^' s2 A: s
, C1 o/ I1 `. Z- Z- B: s6 H- Q

本帖子中包含更多资源

您需要 登录 才可以下载或查看,没有账号?马上注册

×
回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

发表于 2009-5-28 23:17:25 | 显示全部楼层
 

本帖子中包含更多资源

您需要 登录 才可以下载或查看,没有账号?马上注册

×
回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

发表于 2009-5-28 23:32:40 | 显示全部楼层
More example:

CH3CH2OH  chemical shift values: 18 (CH3), 58 (CH2).
CH3CH2OAc chemical shifts values: 14 (CH3), 60 (CH2).

These data should be remembered to remind the above rule.

alpha carbon 60>58;

belta carbon 14<18.

[em79][em79]
5 @& h1 @( ]: N% {
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-28 23:48:20编辑过]
( i) d* o4 n( W
回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-31 10:07:36 | 显示全部楼层
受益匪浅
回复 支持 反对

使用道具 举报

您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 马上注册

本版积分规则

Archiver|手机版|中国核磁共振论坛

GMT+8, 2025-12-8 14:52

Powered by Discuz! X3.5

© 2001-2024 Discuz! Team.

快速回复 返回顶部 返回列表