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请教这四种类似结构某个C化学位移的相对大小

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发表于 2009-5-28 16:27:12 | 显示全部楼层

4>3, 4>1

3>2,
1>2

3>1 (-OCO- alpha +56.5; belta +6.5; -OH alpha +49.0, belta +10.1) although 3 is close to 1

4>3>1>2

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according to your conclusion,maybe 3 is the  lowest

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发表于 2009-5-28 22:02:51 | 显示全部楼层
 Why?
The conclusion is 4>3>1>2.
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发表于 2009-5-28 23:13:32 | 显示全部楼层
  On acetylation (OH group was changed to OCOCH3 group), the alpha ; Z+ S+ u2 T F, c, @) w ]carbon will show a downfield shift while the belta carbon will show a! W& u" R& T- p% L) q* U upfield shif.
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$ s1 d- H( A! b$ U" d See the following article how to revise a structure reported before just using the above rule!
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( |2 Y3 c1 R# A" \5 ^" WOne compound with C-6 OH, C-7 OH (compound IV in the article):  chemical shift values of C-6 79.3 ppm, C-7 76.2 ppm were known.
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& L5 B7 a$ o1 W* G% K7 j) t+ J* _Another compound with one OH group acetylated: it could be C-6 OAc, C-79 I8 q" Z8 F% A7 R; v, c. G0 N OH (compound I in the article) or could be C-6 OH, C-7OAc (compound II, s D0 X2 S( a/ k in the article). The chemical shifts of the two carbons are 78.1 and ! m- p" O8 C/ B- M) g80.5. How to determine which carbon (C-6 or C-7) has the OAC group?

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' @* {9 Z3 j( l+ G1 u6 PThe auhors resovled the problem:
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1 o5 ?- T, U5 h" m+ {6 nIf C-6 (80.5) and C-7 (78.5) were right, meaning both the chemical j+ V) ~( ?2 z# _7 y( O; y2 z# oshifts of C-6 (79.3 to 80.5) and C-7 (76.2 to 78.5) were increased. ) I+ }5 P$ b6 C8 P0 |4 KThat assupmtion violates the above rule.
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' [4 b C! Y% `* c1 P' Y So chemical shift of C-6 was not 80.5 but 78.5, chemical shift of C-7 was not 78.5 but 80.5.
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! a9 O- h! f$ N) ] C-6 (78.5) and C-7 (80.5) meaned that C-6 shifted to highfield (from 3 R6 w9 ^0 }. [7 I- S/ N5 X79.3 to 78.5), C-7 shifted to lowfield (from 76.2 to 80.5). Logically, 4 R5 e' A" ^$ _, q; v6 X2 |it was the C-7 with the OAC group (compound II), not the C-6 with the * m$ U; s! ]5 Y) Y* iOAC group (compound I).
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* O- B% m0 P5 c, }. j Simple, logic structural revision published in 1981!

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发表于 2009-5-28 23:17:25 | 显示全部楼层
 

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发表于 2009-5-28 23:32:40 | 显示全部楼层
More example:

CH3CH2OH  chemical shift values: 18 (CH3), 58 (CH2).
CH3CH2OAc chemical shifts values: 14 (CH3), 60 (CH2).

These data should be remembered to remind the above rule.

alpha carbon 60>58;

belta carbon 14<18.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-31 10:07:36 | 显示全部楼层
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