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请教这四种类似结构某个C化学位移的相对大小

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发表于 2009-5-28 16:27:12 | 显示全部楼层

4>3, 4>1

3>2,
1>2

3>1 (-OCO- alpha +56.5; belta +6.5; -OH alpha +49.0, belta +10.1) although 3 is close to 1

4>3>1>2

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according to your conclusion,maybe 3 is the  lowest

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发表于 2009-5-28 22:02:51 | 显示全部楼层
 Why?
The conclusion is 4>3>1>2.
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发表于 2009-5-28 23:13:32 | 显示全部楼层
  On acetylation (OH group was changed to OCOCH3 group), the alpha ) X6 D8 w1 V. @carbon will show a downfield shift while the belta carbon will show a& r6 E$ j: \7 v9 m! T upfield shif.
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- b/ u& }/ c; @See the following article how to revise a structure reported before just using the above rule!
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6 N1 z* @+ i' Y T. iOne compound with C-6 OH, C-7 OH (compound IV in the article):  chemical shift values of C-6 79.3 ppm, C-7 76.2 ppm were known.
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) [8 }. [# p8 P \' @Another compound with one OH group acetylated: it could be C-6 OAc, C-7 2 i9 ~- i" }# K) P& X$ F$ ?; K# g+ pOH (compound I in the article) or could be C-6 OH, C-7OAc (compound II 7 G- t$ s; E3 g; [, g. b Tin the article). The chemical shifts of the two carbons are 78.1 and3 \: f- ?/ L3 ~# L* J& v6 c 80.5. How to determine which carbon (C-6 or C-7) has the OAC group?

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1 J h3 x4 y$ N9 vThe auhors resovled the problem:
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- l) i0 e& z/ p5 F5 W* r/ [& W( o9 \If C-6 (80.5) and C-7 (78.5) were right, meaning both the chemical. m3 i4 s4 K. K4 H9 ] shifts of C-6 (79.3 to 80.5) and C-7 (76.2 to 78.5) were increased. ( c. S! [! I/ K* {# ?That assupmtion violates the above rule.
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) a8 }% w; l* u7 s0 i So chemical shift of C-6 was not 80.5 but 78.5, chemical shift of C-7 was not 78.5 but 80.5.
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: o( W2 `" l" A! L# |, jC-6 (78.5) and C-7 (80.5) meaned that C-6 shifted to highfield (from 3 N! d- j. _9 R/ s7 ?5 B" x79.3 to 78.5), C-7 shifted to lowfield (from 76.2 to 80.5). Logically,, @5 ]/ l& I0 U4 u; y it was the C-7 with the OAC group (compound II), not the C-6 with the( P6 d/ B- z u! F$ L) d2 b OAC group (compound I).
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发表于 2009-5-28 23:17:25 | 显示全部楼层
 

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发表于 2009-5-28 23:32:40 | 显示全部楼层
More example:

CH3CH2OH  chemical shift values: 18 (CH3), 58 (CH2).
CH3CH2OAc chemical shifts values: 14 (CH3), 60 (CH2).

These data should be remembered to remind the above rule.

alpha carbon 60>58;

belta carbon 14<18.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-31 10:07:36 | 显示全部楼层
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